In the third episode of his climate series, Ezra Klein changes gears from discussing the science and implications of climate change to looking at possible solutions and what the future could look like in a decarbonized world. In this episode, Ezra interviews Saul Griffith, the founder and CEO of Otherlab, a research and development laboratory that works to leverage energy, automation, and robotics technologies for the goal of decarbonization. Ezra and Saul discuss the current state of decarbonization technologies, possible paths towards a carbon-emission-free future, what a decarbonized society would look like, and much more. This is a great episode for anyone interested in the topic of decarbonization or for those who want a break from the bleak tone that often surrounds climate change conversations.